The interview discusses the complex variables of the competition between the US and China and their impact on other countries. It highlights the lack of a clear strategy from the US and suggests that working with China to create a world with space for both powers would be a wiser approach. It also mentions China's strategy to prevent collapse and its efforts to build strong domestic society and economic dependence. The interview concludes by emphasizing the importance of the US rebuilding the strength of its domestic society to win the contest against China.
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